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Transcendent Minds Podcast -Transcending Limitations of Human Consciousness with Sunshine


Sunshine – the pink-haired psychic medium guest speaker at The Transcendent Minds podcast hosted by Peter Michael Dedes.


Peter Michael Dedes – the host of the Transcendent Minds Podcast where he conducts enlightening conversations with individuals who are interested in the intricacies of consciousness, the mysteries of the mind and what it means to be human. Peter conducts conversations with thought leaders, scientists, and spiritual guides as we delve deep into the ethereal and material world of consciousness. His aim is to explore and expand the horizons of consciousness.


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Peter: Welcome to The Transcendent Minds Podcast, the podcast where we explore the mysteries of the mind and the human experience. Join us as we delve into topics such as consciousness, spirituality, and personal growth, with expert guests and thought provoking discussions. Get ready to expand your mind and discover new insights on this journey of self discovery. Now, here’s your host, Peter Michael deeds. Today I have a captivating guest on the show. She is a multifaceted individual who wears many mystical hats, and her journey through life is as fascinating as it is inspiring. Joining us today is Jen Romanowski, aka Sunshine, a psychic medium soul healer, spiritual advisor, Shadow worker, eclectic witch practice magician and the founder of sunshine readings.

Sunshine’s passion is to help people confront their inner shadows tap into their hidden magical gifts and remove any energetic roadblocks that prevent them from achieving spiritual enlightenment. She is the creative force behind the chakra diviners playbook, an innovative program that combines the power of chakras with the art of divination. Through this transformative experience, Sunshine delves into the shadow side of each chakra leading spiritual warriors towards the life they genuinely desire. But sunshine is not just limited to the mystical arts. She’s also an award winning software product manager, and business operations expert who brings innovation to organizations by revolutionising internal structures and processes. My discussion with sunshine today is special because it’s an unscripted conversation. When not harnessing her spiritual prowess or reshaping the corporate landscape. Sunshine enjoys her creative pursuits, dancing, cooking, painting, and spending time with her five furry feline friends in the serene suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. Join us as we dive deep into Sunshines world and uncover the extraordinary balance between spirituality and the corporate realm. So let’s dive in. And let’s see where we go.


Sunshine: As a psychic, we get these premonitions or feelings or whatever you want to describe our intuitive hits our psychic hits come through. And very often, if you were to go talk to an astrologist they’ll see all of the same happening. And so she has this beautiful gift where she knows she’s both so when she starts to have a client, she’ll go pull the astrology perspective out and then they’re more comfortable with what she’s sharing. So it’s helped support her and her business very much when I’ve had I’ve had astrologist friends as well as human design friends that I love this because maybe we’ll talk about a person that we mutually know. And so I will give the intuitive this and this, and then they’ll go and literally validate. And so it’s this beautiful thing, every time where I feel okay, I get it, I can peek feel and pick up on the astrological energy and where everything is, even if I don’t know the exact science behind it.


Peter: That’s the convergence and the connection between the left and the right brain because we’re so left brain dominant in terms of rationality and facts. And okay, you need those things who wants to be intuitive about their finances, I don’t. But at the same time, I want to understand that when I’m approaching any kind of decision, I’m actually looking at it through a perspectival lens of the left and right brain. So your intuition or what I call your inner intuition, like you say those psychic hits that you get are part and parcel in coming to a decision. But if you just go on facts and figures, it doesn’t take into account the energetics or whatever you’re trying to approach. So I think that’s really important, what you’re saying.


Sunshine: There is a lot of facts and figures that don’t align with the energy of happiness, facts and figures would tell you like, oh crap, I didn’t make my six figures this year. But you could be the happiest kitten in the world, right? You could have been like skipping and playing and out there exploring or you could have been an artist, right? So facts and figures don’t always share the energetic of the happiness and a lot of people get caught in those facts and figures and forget that life isn’t about the dollars or how much of this you have. Are your assets your net worth, or are you carrying debt like I watch a lot of people even get energetically drained because they carry debt and I’m like, because you’re choosing like So what So what you have debt, you work it off, right? Like you get to choose if you know it’s a burden to you.


Peter: And that’s the important point because As psychologically, people will go into the fact they’ve made a mistake. But they haven’t, they’ve simply made a choice at that time. And we can change the you have the gift of choice, you can make different choices. But if you go down the mistake route, it’s our victim consciousness and getting all the mileage out of it. And you that story starts serving that whole drama. And then you try and recruit others into your sphere, who will validate that drama. It’s like a ball of spring with knots in it.


Sunshine: Yeah. And it’s so easy to do. And it’s funny, it’s reminding me if somebody asked last night, and I would think you would appreciate this, or might have a good perspective on this to share somebody, we were talking about astral projection. And they asked how to do it. So I gave some of the tips and things that I’ve done and read about that have worked for other people. And one of them is trying to get yourself into this meditative state, you want to be able to put yourself into a trance like state. And one of the people there asked, What happens if I get distracted. And my response to you is going to sound very simple. And it’s going to sound maybe dismissive. And he said, but it’s not. I said, all you have to do is forgive yourself for the distraction. Because the distraction isn’t really an issue until the ego pops up to tell you it’s a distraction, and it’s an issue. And now the spiral starts in another path of saying, I can’t do this, why am I trying this? You’re silly. This is stupid. Astral projection doesn’t work, right? There’s the distraction. But this distraction otherwise was just your human mind not being practiced enough of being focused. So forgive yourself and move on and keep going.


Peter: There’s wisdom in distractions, because it’s trying to tell you something, it’s a symptom of something. But if you try and suppress it, and I say this to clients, look, you’re there with your beach balls holding them underwater, and it’s so fricking tiring doing that, that it overloads, your nervous system, and you simply quit after time. But hey, here’s the kicker, right? The longer you try and push those down, via they’re going to pop up. Yeah, so at some point, at some point, they’re gonna bite you in the backside in the ass, right? And they’re gonna be calling on you. And what you’re talking about this when we drop from the beta state into the gamma state, that is the brain’s conductor, coordinating the harmonious interaction of different brain regions. And that’s where you can get into things like problem solving, and learning and memory retention, we want to drop into a theta state.


Sunshine: Delta State is where she referred to them as distractions. And that the way I explained it to her, I said, those of us that have high Third Eye activity that are already practicing psychic abilities, we are already operating in this Delta State in a pretty regular basis. And if you’re not practiced in stepping from that delta into the theta to your point, it’s going to feel like so if you’re just in mal couth, and that like earthly plane, and then try to step in, you’re gonna get all of those same psychic hits that you normally would that squirrel had starts to come through. And as a psychic, I don’t ever want to stop that, because some of those messages are some of the most powerful things like I get these little tiny hits. And I’m like, wow, weird, right? But if you’re not used to, in practice, to getting it down into that beta state, and you go and try to get into this astral or meditative state, it’s so easy for our human self, to start to judge that getting into theta isn’t easy. It’s where we sleep as well. So you’re telling me you’re gonna get hard on yourself, because you can’t put yourself into a waking sleep state and you’ve never done it before? No, forgive yourself for the distraction and then go right back into it. It’ll get easier over time, right? It’s a it’s a muscle that you’ll work on.


Peter: That is the story that people tell themselves because, again, people go from perception to story to conclusion in a nanosecond, and like a piece of candy with a wrapper around it inside of that wrapper is judgment, and you swallow that chocolate wrapper away, and you swallow that. And that might be a very small thing. But what it maintains is very large.


Sunshine: And that judgment, I watch myself, every now and again. It’s funny, because I will literally have people tell me I’m non judgmental, and I am in most regards. There is one place and I’ll tell you this, Peter, I was walking out on Wednesday morning. It was early, I was stopping at the store before I went into the office. And I’m walking out and this woman was walking in and her outfit I didn’t resonate with and I caught myself judging her and all of a sudden I went, oh my god, this is what you think people are doing to you. This is literally why I judge my own self and I don’t remember if you do these as well. do this or that just audio podcast, but I am a obese woman. So I was like this resignation of how quick to your point that judgment happened, literally, the sliding doors open and I saw her and I unwrapped the candy and popped it into my mouth. I looked at that, and I was just like, This is what we do to ourselves is on a regular basis, we are constantly in that external world, oscillating against outside things and casting often judgment on ourselves when we judge other people.


Peter: What’s beautiful about what you did was you put it back in the wrapper.


Sunshine: Oh, my God, I thank God I did. Because I’ve been doing the work on my own self acceptance of my body and my physical presence in this world for years since I was young. And I tell people all the time, even though I’m better at it today.


Peter: When you look in the mirror, what do you see?


Sunshine: What do I see? What’s that question?


Peter: You take all your clothes off? And you look in the mirror? What do you see?


Sunshine: That’s a really interesting question. And if you were to have asked me that three years ago, or five, or whatever, versus now now I see a physical body that is trying to be present for me and my consciousness in this earthly plane. And I see a physical body that has taken and stored a lot of trauma, a lot of trauma, I see a physical body that I have not loved as much as it deserves to have from me, I do. And I see a physical body that I’m still trying to understand the best relationship to have with it. Right, because there’s a benefit in being human because we get the luxury of our senses. We get to lounge around and float on a lazy river and say that we had a day filled with activity. We get to sit down and enjoy a delicious. I don’t know if you’ve ever had a cannoli cake, but oh my god, but in the same breath, our physical body actually relies upon us to keep it moving and its momentum. What does that relationship look like? And how do I not allow other people’s judgement candy to be felt right, because as an empath, as a psychic every time I step into a room, and I can feel when someone else’s judgment hits me. And so it’s this it’s as a child that tore me up. As a child, I had very low self esteem, because I thought those were my thoughts.


Peter: In terms of your current mindset towards your body in your way? Is it more focused on release, acceptance or a desire for loss?


Sunshine: It’s more around release and acceptance. And I love that you asked that question, because this has been a lot of the mental shift of myself where I have started to recognize and realize that other empaths or even some other witches or psychics that would probably agree, as a child, we you think of fat, fat is a literal insulator, typical human body is going to be witnessing a child go through traumatic events. And it has nothing else to be able to do, right because it’s not like the physical body can teach a child how to process somatic emote it can’t do that. So what does it do? It puts its insulation on it insulates it. Now, all of that trauma, all of that shit that sits in there, everything is just there. And so I don’t think I really accepted how potent that release is needed until I had what I believe was the most traumatic repressed memory show up for me in the beginning of July. not intentional, just in a meditation session head on a new shamanic drumming thing off in one place, and all of a sudden, a repressed memory shows up. And I literally even sat in shock after that repressed memory. And through that repressed memory was sexual abuse by a very close family member. And all sorts of things started to trickle out. After that memory came through, including this really concrete realization of needing to release.


Peter: One of the clients I’m working with a similar story. The reframe is not weight loss because the brain is like to lose anything. This is about weight release and embracing your body as a divine expression. Because when you start to view your body as a sacred vessel, a divine expression of your souls journey in this physical realm. Granted, there may be psychic residue that reside in your tissues that are connected to the trauma of that phase in your life where you may have been able to measure what was happening to you, but you couldn’t give it any kind of interpretation, because it probably went beyond your five senses psychology of interpretation at that time. Is what I’m preferring this to shift your perspective on self love. Because there are many societal and cultural beliefs that have shaped our perceptions of beauty and body image. We are bombarded with these images. So it’s releasing those external influences and redefining beauty from a spiritual standpoint, because to me, you are beautiful. To me, you exude an incredible potency. And it’s not just about this stuff. But I’m more interested in how you function than in how you look.


Sunshine: Yeah, I agree. And I’ve been doing this work, I will tell you, there’s two things that popped into my mind. Last year, was the first year that I actually purchased a string bikini for myself and wore it in public. I remember, my boyfriend and I are on this beach. And this young woman, she’s like, in her early 20s, walks up to me with tears in her eyes, and says, I wish I had as much confidence as you, you look incredible, right? Really learning how I have cashed such harsh judgment and not out of innocence. I shouldn’t say out of innocence, like I just didn’t know I grew up in a household where, as I said, this repressed memory, this sexual abuse.

But I was also very much so abused around any of my weight and weighed shame throughout my entire childhood, at the age of six years old, was enrolled into Weight Watchers, I have memories of having to stand up in front of a group and stand on a scale these kinds of things. And I very much so been conditioned on what’s acceptable from all judgment of self of being around weight, this weight this number on a scale or the size of the body. And so I a couple of weeks ago, I love to dance, I love to dance. And I found out there was an ecstatic dance. I don’t know if you’re familiar with ecstatic dance, no, what a static dance. It’s amazing. If any of your listeners enjoy dancing, especially are a fan of dancing, but don’t do it because of the drinking often associated, right?

You go on and go dance, you’re gonna go to club, these are typically going to be sober events, they’re curated. So there’s one local to me that the woman that leads it is a social worker, she’s a licensed social worker. So you open up talking about what you’re there to actually move because the thought is dance is a somatic exercise to help you move energy and provide cleansing and relief and things of that nature. So they open with circle. And then they have a curated playlist that goes for an hour and a half and slowly takes you up starts out slower beats, and then we’ll end up in a very high beat and then bring you back down and then you wrap with the last circle. But the thing is, there are rules, it is meant to be you have to actually ask for any type of consent for touch engagement or anything of that nature. And there’s no talking, no talking or conversation. And so you get there and the music starts. And when I say I love to dance, I’m not just a to stepper, I will make up every move you have ever imagined minus probably won’t do the snake on the floor. Because I’m sure and fat. So it’s really not a snake on the floor. It’s really just like a worm that just wiggles a little bit. And it just doesn’t really feel very good to me. And then people just dance and they’re just all over. And some people dance with each other. And some people just sit in the corner. And maybe they just meditate and listen to the music. But it’s this kind of soloed experience. But there’s this mirror in the space. And the social worker literally says she goes you can choose to dance by yourself tonight, you can choose to dance with someone else here. Or you can choose to dance with the one person in the mirror that you were born with and die with. And that will love you forever. And so a couple of weeks ago, it took me about 45 minutes before I was like comfortable.

And then I started to look in the mirror and to like dance with myself in the mirror until respect this and love this. And we are so many of us use that condition and even half the time. What we see externally, very often we’ve got parents that struggle with weight issues or self esteem issues, and they’re behind their own closed doors. They’re projecting their own insecurities down and that’s a lot of what happened with me. My father himself was picked on as a child for being short and fat, and he was not going to have that with his kid.


Peter: Seriously when you dance, what is your relationship with the subconscious aspect of your pain body and how does it manifest in
you? Your subconscious pain.


Sunshine: This particular dance was very intentional, and I did step into that one to help try to release some of that repressed memory and I know I’ve got even more and the relationship was still some of these conscious thought patterns of forgiveness and acceptance and you do get to choose to let go of this. You don’t have to hold on to these. So that’s the conscious thought pattern, the subconscious as far as the relationship, my body, I ended up in tears at some point no reason in the middle of dance just tears streaming down my face, there were moments that I knew my heart rate had raised so high that I found myself down on the floor, just enjoying the cool of the floor, because sweat pouring down my face, I had to go get a ponytail holder at some point and put my hair up because now my hair had gotten sweaty.

And I look at all of these things. And it’s like, the conscious mind to me, was feeding the good stuff back in it was giving the forgiveness and reminding of like, why I was there. But I teach even the people that I mentor and I work with our subconscious is actually pretty miraculous. If we just tell it, that we are willing to let it work, it will happen, the tears will show up, the shakes will happen in the vibrations, and we’ll find in a matter of an hour and a half, you’ll have released weeks, maybe even months of energetic that has built up and all you have to do is ask for it to be let go. And so I was completely exhausted by the end of the ecstatic dance. But one of the more beautiful things that happened, which I adore so much is my 18 year old niece was with me.

As we close the circle, she sat next to me and I went first sharing how it was for me. I said at some point, I realized why David Bowie sings the song dance magic, right? Because like dances is such a magical experience. But my knees in front of people should never met all strangers, 18 years old, expresses and says I’ve always been told I was too much or I was too weird. I was too strange. And this is the first time I’ve actually felt I could be myself.

And it’s that we talk about needing to put to work through trauma or deal through trauma or things like that. And I think about that lesson, she just learned that if you’re around the right people, you’ll always be able to beat yourself. And with that lesson, that means she gets to hopefully avoid a lot of adult onset trauma, because she doesn’t allow herself. Yeah, I’m surprised ecstatic dance. It’s amazing.

Peter: Just thinking about ancient traditions and how dance was such an important part of their lives because it transcends the boundaries when you’re talking about there’s no talking so it transcends the boundaries of words, because of that lends itself to expressing yourself in a much more unique and captivating way. And you have the physical expression of emotion, because it allows you to convey that emotion that might be difficult to put into words. Through those movements of body language and gestures.

You can express joy, sadness, passion, the whole kind of gamut of feelings may deeply resonate with yourselves. But also those who watch you dance as well. In your looking in the mirror is like who’s watching? Because does then the inside the metaphorical internal camera, when you take the movie of that, does it reflect the external, outside, metaphorical camera when you look in the mirror, because you have the release and catharsis because the outlet for releasing pent up emotions and stress means you can engage with your body can lead to a sense of release and catharsis is shaking off and letting go. But it also gives you connection and unity because it brings people together like you saying it’s in a social setting.

So there’s this shared experience that unites people, regardless of language or cultural differences. And it’s a freedom of expression. But not only that, it allows for your own personal interpretation. It allows for your creativity allows you to express your uniqueness. And it’s a freedom to move and express yourself without rigid rules. Okay, I get there was rules in there, but that can be liberating. I love music, and when I listen to it, I let it seep into my sinews because I can embody the music. And it moves me emotionally. And I would imagine dancing is a way to physically embody and respond to that music, the rhythm, the melody, the beak becomes an extension of you.

So you’ve got this harmonious fusion of sound and movement. And you have this mind body connection because you got proprioception balance, coordination, awareness, even if you’re not fully aware of it because you’re just moving, and you get the endorphin boost as well, because you’re releasing those natural mood enhancers. And when you look at those ancient cultures, it’s a celebration of life, it’s really an integral part of rituals, celebrations and ceremony.

So it’s a way to, to mark an important event in your life, express gratitude, and celebrate the simple joy of being alive. Because one of the transformative aspects of it with a no talking and just moving is that you’ve got creativity. And then you’ve got transformation, because you can step into a different role, a different persona. So it doesn’t really matter how you do that. What matters is you can explore new aspects of yourself, which foster personal growth and transformation.


Sunshine: Yeah, and I think that’s a really big deal watching. And the not talking thing, to me is one of the most potent pieces because they even explain this, if you do want to dance they give you like, the nonverbal cues that you can do to extend Yes, would you like to dancer, no, I don’t want to and the ability for this mind body and what it does, and all of this, you’re talking about the ancients and I get these pictures in my head, you talk about celebration, but so much magic involved dance as well. So if you got together for ritual, even if it wasn’t the whole crowd, there was probably dancers even like, I’m seeing a lot of like tribal right now you have you go even into indigenous cultures, they have a dance is a huge part of ritual. And the reason why is because it allows for that mind body connection, even if they’re not dancing, they can imagine they can feel they can hear the music to your point, they can feel it within them, maybe their body isn’t moving in the way that same way. But they still get all of that benefit. And if you’ve got energy, that stagnant things that have been sitting in view, go hang out within a group of folks that are actually trying to literally move energy, you will not feel the same when you walk away.


Peter: It activates your lymphatic system, which is your drainage system, which you don’t get when you’re sitting around all day. But that movement, that shunting of blood, north and south of your body is going to start to move things around. If you then program in the mind, you start looking at the toxic effects of negative thoughts. Studies have shown that if you spend even five minutes recalling a negative situation that can suppress your immune system for up to six hours. So this is why reframing. And this is why I say to clients I work with is that it’s not about weight loss. It’s about weight release, because the recidivism rate of weight loss is 95%. And it’s a billion dollar industry. Oh, let’s work that one out, shall we? Yeah, because the brain doesn’t like to lose anything.


Sunshine : And the word loss implies a desire to find again. Yeah, it’s an unspoken desire to fight. It’s like even I never claimed that I’m ever lost. I always just say that I’m temporarily misplaced, because I don’t think anybody else is going to try to find me. So I’m just temporarily misplaced from where I need to be. That release thing is big. And and I love that you even said earlier about the acceptance piece. Because at the end of the day, I really no as I release, like not the weight, but I release some of this energy that’s still stuck, that’s still there, some of that trauma that so that in itself, my weight very well may start to release itself. But if I can accept the fact that I’m doing what I need to be doing, I’m eating healthy, I have a good relationship with food, I have a good relationship with my body, I have a good relationship with how others even relate to my body. Let’s be real, because that’s some of issues in the past too, is how I allowed other people to relate to it. I don’t really care.


Peter: Absolutely. And this may benefit you but I want to help you some distinctions and arguments for weight release as a concept as distinct from weight loss because when we look at the mindset shift weight release focuses on the idea of letting go rather than losing the term weight loss implies a loss of something valuable, which can create a negative psychological association. Like I was saying earlier, that negative thought can result in six hours of immune system suppression. So we need to reframe it and emphasize the idea of freeing oneself from excess way. And yeah, like you say, embracing a healthier lifestyle. Now the positive connotation of that is that weight release carries a more positive connotation compared to weight loss.

Because why it implies a sense of freedom, liberation, empowerment, as distinct from deprivation or sacrifice or denial. So this positive framing can enhance intrinsic motivation and mindset towards the journey. There’s also the fact weight release encourages you to shift your focus from solely numerical goals, or here’s my target weight to holistic measures of progress and well being. What do I mean by that factors like increased energy, improved mobility, better sleep, enhanced self confidence, empowerment, and overall improved health markers.

So this broader definition of success can help you to maintain intrinsic motivation, cultivate the right environment, and gain satisfaction throughout your journey? Yeah, what sustainable life changes are their weight release emphasize the importance of adopting sustainable lifestyle changes as distinct from relying on quick fixes, or the next diet or extreme measures which I see people taking on board and encourages you to focus on nourishment choices. And those can be mental mountain choices as well. They can be environmental choices, because environment will always be willpower, motivation wanes, if you don’t cultivate the environment, for you to go on a weight release journey, which means letting go of trauma, which means addressing those things. environment will always be your willpower, always the smoker, the alcoholic who hangs around people who drink or smoke will never ever it despite wearing patches, if you’re in that environment, guess what you’re going to drink, you’re going to smoke environment will always be willpower.

So you have to cultivate that environment, rather than relying on quick fixes or extreme measures. And then we have to look at body acceptance and self love. I don’t mean this in a kind of a hippie dippie way, I’m talking about self acceptance, self love, at any size, encouraging you to appreciate and care for your body as it is. But whilst you’re also striving for improved health and well being, and when you have this shift in mindset, it promotes a more positive body image and reduces the potential negative impacts of societal beauty standards, which is appalling, in my view. And to add to that is your psychological well being.

Because weight release recognizes the interconnectedness of physical, spiritual, and psychological well being is saying that sustainable change requires addressing emotional and psychological factors that may contribute to unhealthy habits or outdated habits. And then you’ve got empowerment and autonomy, because weight release empowers you to take ownership of your own health and well being and make choices that align with your own value and preferences.

The emphasis here is on the allowance and permission that you have of self authorship, and a sense of control over your journey and your decisions. So when you embrace this concept of what I call weight release, you can reframe your mindset. Focus on holistic well being, create a sustainable lifestyle change, and promote a healthier relationship with your body. That is so important.


Sunshine: There’s these little tiny bubbles that are like popping up in my head, Peter around because I love this is something that you’re working with client, I love that you incorporate in the spiritual component of it. Because I do think that there are a lot of programs like you’ve even got, I don’t know, in the UK, but there’s one in the US and it’s called new and it’s a different like weight loss. And they’ve got a hair as well. Yeah, they work on like the appropriate like, psychological aspect of and all of that good stuff. But at the end of the day, I do believe there’s a piece that psychology misses out on where you can go ahead and do the dialectical or cognitive behavioral therapy. But if you haven’t addressed someone’s own belief structure, which is the spiritual component, then are they not going to just be back here again, at some point.


Peter: That’s what they rely on. That’s why their service rate is 95%. You’re in a revolving door. When you find that you’ve got a one, quote unquote, weight loss journey, and it doesn’t work for you. Then you go into blame and avoidance as distinct from Understanding what is the truth and where can I be responsible in this? Because what it promulgates is this look for the next diet, because go on Amazon, look at how many guys- 


Sunshine: Who else has tried something else new?


Peter: Oh, I’ve tried the cabbage diet, I fasted, I’ve done this, I’ve done that. But you have to really look at the very fact that if you want empowerment and autonomy, and take ownership of your health and make choices that align with your values and preferences, you have to really understand your own chemistry. You have a unique fingerprint, you have your unique DNA, DNA doesn’t have judgment. It doesn’t judge anything like a blade of grass doesn’t judge another blade of grass, it just grows. So in nature, there isn’t judgment. There’s just measurement and growth.

That’s what it does, and wholeness. The Universe does wholeness, we don’t we fragment, we divide. And when we embrace this concept and reframe our mindset, then oh my gosh, land, the questions start to change. The questions that you ask yourself about building awareness, exploring your intrinsic motivation? How do you shift your perspectives? What emotional and spiritual healing do I need to undertake? What about self compassion and self acceptance? How do I connect with my inner wisdom? How do I uncover the root causes? How do I start to embrace? I don’t the word change, because change just means you do something more better or different? How do you embrace transformation?

And what are the metrics for your transformation? And how do you start to cultivate self love, and forgiveness? How do you embody your authentic self, and you have to cultivate a non judgmental space to explore these deeper aspects, because when you cultivate a safe space, it becomes a brave space to be fully self expressed, where you could have self reflection, introspection, self compassion, as you embark on the soulful and spiritual weight release path.


Sunshine: Yeah, it’s quite a journey. And I’ve sometimes wondered, and I’ve even asked, why do these challenges or struggles happen? And the answer that somebody just chit shattered in my head was like, because no, no one’s given an owner’s manual on how to work with the body. It just doesn’t exist. Or you’ve got scientists and doctors and the American Medical Association, or whoever’s over there trying to say that they know. But in reality is we are all unique, we’re all different. So if it wasn’t part of the journey, when would be ever figure it out? Or we’d all be cookie cutter in the same package, same person, however, that works. It can feel very burdensome, right?


Peter: If you allow that story to serve you. And when you ask a question, the question needs to survive the answer. So you keep the question alive. And by keeping it alive, you unburden yourself. But when you have a full stop, if you want to be symbolically literate, and look at the question mark, it’s a hook to get the next question, you keep it alive in you.

And people don’t want to be burdened by that culture organizes and propels us to look for the quick fix the shiny object syndrome, hey, newsflash, you’re dealing with an organic adaptive organism that takes time to release these things. Because if you’re walking around what I call being vertically unwell, when he got diabetes, or when he got high blood pressure, or whether you think you’re just fat, and not good looking or whatever story you have going on, you’ve got to look at your environment, your internal environment and your external environment.

If your external environment has an association, whereby you’ve got the TV and you’ve got the sofa, and you have this habit, where you sit on the sofa, and get a bunch of cookies and watch something, because you’re trying to release your anxiety or your orally bored. You want to put that on anybody to talk to you when you become part of that system. And what I’m trying to say to clients is like, hey, there’s another way.

There’s another way, because when you look at what your ideal self looks like, what steps can you take to move close to that vision? What limiting beliefs are holding you back from becoming your best self? And how can you challenge and overcome them? What key values and principles drive you and how can you incorporate them into your daily life to achieve that vision? Those are just some of the questions I would ask.


Sunshine: Yeah, and the vision I would say think even more? How do you want to feel first, yourself want to feel because how you want to feel may not represent this picture you have in your head right now, I think about how I want to feel I want to feel loved and happy and like pleasurable. And I want to feel like I can enjoy all these things in life, that vision, and is probably not going to be a five foot 225 pound person because my body would require so much discipline, that it’s not going to give me that feeling it’s going to feel like, it’s that’s not the feeling that I have.

So the feeling to me becomes more important, because I’ve come to realize some of those visions aren’t mine, that somebody else has bigger boobs, I wish I had this tiny waist and these big movies, right? Really? Is that how you want to feel because the feeling that would make is maybe some back pain that may make you feel more self conscious, because you’re uncertain if people are looking at you like that, right? So really defining how you want to feel, and then asking yourself, does that vision of what you’ve been seeing lined up to that? Have you looked at all of those other downsides to what that vision would look like? Peter, I don’t know at some of the folks that you’re working with, but I have been 75 pounds lighter than what I am now. And when I got down to my lightest weight, I panicked. Because I did not like how people were looking at me.

Peter: Now you’re touching on fear. This is why for some not for everyone, but for many people, the whole journey of weight release. The reason that backfires most of the time is fear of change. And it stems from various sources. And if you’ve got fear of change, because weight release requires changes in your lifestyle and your habits and your routines. Obviously, you’ve got to do those things. But the prospect of leaving familiar patterns behind and stepping into the unknown wall that can be intimidating, especially when it involves adjusting, and course correcting.

And the fact you might have to change to meet new requirements, then you’ve got what you alluded to, you’ve got society standards of beauty and body image that can lead to body dissatisfaction. Because some people might fear that, hey, if I lose this weight, they won’t match these unrealistic ideals, which then can impact your self esteem. And then you’ve got things like failure, fear of failure, because people worry that, oh, if I don’t lose the weight, I may not get the results I want. And if I put in all this effort, and I don’t achieve the outcome, then I won’t attempt it. And then you’ve got the emotional attachments as well, which can hold emotional significance because you fear the nursing the comfort of a coping mechanism that certain foods provide because certain foods can trigger more of the dopamine receptors. And some can trigger the serotonin ones, like carbohydrates tend to be much more serotonin, which is the neurotransmitter of inner peace.

So the pasta, the donuts, with sugar makes you feel relaxed. And so emotional attachments to food can make the process of letting go very tough. If you’re talking about your bikini, you’ve got the fear of judgment. And that can invite unwanted comments or judgments from others, more so from the person themselves than people externally, because the fear of being criticized or ridiculed might lead you to avoid this journey altogether, and the impact that can have on social dynamics and relationships, because some people may fear their relationships will change if they start making healthier choices. If there’s no buying, which will lead to isolation or perceived loss of connection.


Sunshine: You are unpacking so many things right now that are tied in. And this is why it’s so complicated. And once again, it’s not just a physical thing. It’s not just a mental thing. It is also that spiritual component, right. It’s how you believe how you see things, how you look at what’s your relationship to the energetic of weight around you as it is, I had no clue what we were going to chat about today. But I’ve got to share this with you that I never did not expect this, but was having a conversation with someone before we even jumped on and got to talking. We were talking about just our own relationship and endeavors and stuff. And I jokingly said, I said maybe I need to actually talk about this. And of course I said this and now we’re sharing live on a podcast. So I find that very synchronistic and amusing. So the universe is such a wonderfully playful thing.


Peter: It’s the same for me. I’m finding more and more that I’m getting into conversation because I really want to understand more about the essence of you doing what you do. And I think that’s all really important. But I think sometimes messages come through, because they need to be aired. Maybe this is not just for you and for me, but for the greater good as well, whoever has the ears to hear and the eyes to see in a sentence to feel, because there are many different aspects of weight release.

And as I’ve outlined, and you’ve got things like there’s a perceived sacrifice, that people look at fearing the have to give up this or give up activities, they love, that kind of a sense of deprivation, and make this journey less appealing. And you’ve got the fear of regain. You’ve got underlying medical issues I could go on. But my point here is, it’s a journey of uncertainty. It is a journey of uncertainty. And I know we all want certainty. And the fears and concerns that we have are valid and complex, because why they intertwine psychological, social, spiritual, emotional aspects, we have to approach and have the right reasoning, and understanding and support to recognize it involves more than just physical changes.

It’s a holistic and spiritual journey that involves addressing all these different aspects of your architecture. All the emotions that you have are just the weather that comes in it goes it comes in he goes, but your architecture is right here. Your architecture is always in the present. Yes, your mind that’s going to shift into the future or the past or, but your body’s always present.


Sunshine: Yeah, that’s exactly it. This has been amazing. Thank you so much, Peter.


Peter: I am surprised and delighted. But you’ve instigated the subject matter for this podcast I haven’t had is created this amazing conversation we’ve had, I’d love you to come back and talk about more about what you do.


Sunshine: Absolutely. I’ve adored every conversation we’ve had, you’ve lit me up and sent my brain all running into different places that I didn’t even realize it needed to be. So I’ve adored it. Yeah, absolutely. We love that.


Peter: This is the overture because it’s like going into a big city when you start going down some of the different alleyways and then some of the different streets. And these are all different aspects of the big city of weight release. And I’ve been designing a program around it and quietly, the first one I’m actually really spoken about it on our part of my process in relationship with another is education. And I mean that in the real sense of the word from the Latin, as you see earlier, which means to draw out from that person, their own inner wisdom, so that they can humanize that into application in their own lives. So it’s not a rule book of behavior.

It’s a way of being a way of prescencing, a way of understanding your mechanisms, as an example, your body defense mechanism, because your body defense mechanism will make it challenging for you to lose, quote, unquote, the way because your body might respond by just slowing down your metabolism and making it much more difficult. So there’s this fear of the body working against you. So efforts can be discouraging. As I said, all these fears and concerns are valid, that complex, but we often look at it from a multi faceted approach. So it’s not dictated by numbers. And as you rightly said, it’s how do you want to feel now?


Sunshine: Yeah, Peter, I would love to come back. This was amazing. Every time we chat. It’s been like I say, unbelievably delightful. Thank you again for having me.


Peter: You are so welcome. Thank you for being such a wonderful guest. What has been your experience today, Jen?


Sunshine: The weight released? Like I said, the validation of the conversation her and I were having this morning was just uncanny. Right? So I’m going to keep talking with her about it later. For me personally, I didn’t expect the conversation to go down that path of the weight release or anything of that nature. It’s been something that’s been bubbling in my mind in the last couple of weeks. The biggest takeaway is the fact that the conversation came back into that fashion and I’m being tapped to stop and reflect and see once again, and talk with my own guides to say what else am I holding on to what else is waiting there to be released right now because I don’t think of things as coincidences. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Her and I had a conversation. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Our conversation took this turn. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that earlier in the week, I started to reevaluate again and realized I stopped adding in a lot of my anti inflammatory vegetables and fruits and things of that nature. And I was like, Oh crap, I haven’t had blueberries in the house and all these things. And so I don’t think any of these are things are coincidences. So the biggest takeaway for me today is to give myself the time that I need to actually take care of myself. That’s it. I know a lot of these things. I’m a spiritual teacher, I’ve done the studying on the psychology and the medical stuff. It’s a matter of dedicating the time and not allowing me to dismiss myself, right? It’s so easy to dismiss that tomorrow. I’ll start it tomorrow. I’ll start it Monday, but no, it’s not about tomorrow, or next month or anything of that nature. It’s literally how I’m thinking and what I’m doing and that six, that what was that the statement, you said, the six minutes of a negative thought can lead to six hours or three minutes of a negative thought.


Peter: One negative thought or situation can lead to six hours of immune suppression.


Sunshine:Yeah, that was a big one. So you think about all of these people, I’ve got a couple of friends that have been dealing with regular sickness. And so I’m going to be like, Have you been checking your mental thoughts lately? Like how are you talking to yourself?


Peter: What are your thoughts signatures, because you have to put yourself at the top of the priority list. Do you can have an academic pursuit, or even an academic perusal about all these things. But when you embody and embrace it as a living process, where you instigate and establish an ecology of practices that you do in day in and day out, it’s only then you can enact and extend it, and it becomes part of you. So you become that semi conductor for it as an expression, because you’re clearly a semi conductor, on behalf of those things that want to come through you. But I want you to be a semiconductor for you. So it’s not a sin today, salvation tomorrow mindset.


Sunshine: So thank you so much again, Peter, I would love to come join you again and be delighted by whatever conversation we get into.


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